Comments on: The Oxford EU Debate http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/ Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:36:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: George C http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-239 George C Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:31:00 +0000 http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-239 I understand only two signatures were required from the UK to accept the Lisbon Treaty. . . . .Herr Brown's and the Queen's. So what's the story behind the Queen's signature?? Anyone? I understand only two signatures were required from the UK to accept the Lisbon Treaty. . . . .Herr Brown’s and the Queen’s.
So what’s the story behind the Queen’s signature??
Anyone?

]]> By: terence patrick hewett http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-175 terence patrick hewett Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:50:16 +0000 http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-175 @ The average British voter You say that these are not the views of educated British people. I am an educated British person. I have two honours degrees in hard sciences and a masters in mathematical analysis. I have lived and worked on four continents. I read Latin, Greek, Flemish, Old English and Middle English. I have read widely on history, philosophy, religion and literature. I can navigate a boat by dead reckoning, ride a horse, throw a pot, paint in oils and egg tempera; and I'm not a bad blacksmith either. And I want to see the back of the EU for good and all. Nothing personal; it's simply that I do not have a slave mentality @ The average British voter

You say that these are not the views of educated British people. I am an educated British person. I have two honours degrees in hard sciences and a masters in mathematical analysis. I have lived and worked on four continents. I read Latin, Greek, Flemish, Old English and Middle English. I have read widely on history, philosophy, religion and literature. I can navigate a boat by dead reckoning, ride a horse, throw a pot, paint in oils and egg tempera; and I’m not a bad blacksmith either. And I want to see the back of the EU for good and all. Nothing personal; it’s simply that I do not have a slave mentality

]]> By: macroderma http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-132 macroderma Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:53:24 +0000 http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-132 @TABV More in common with the Dutch and Germans? The common heritage? No, I think William of Orange had little affect The common language? No Common legal system? No Common constitution?No Common banking system? No Common education?No Seems to me that the average british voter is distinctly ill-informed @TABV

More in common with the Dutch and Germans?

The common heritage? No, I think William of Orange had little affect
The common language? No
Common legal system? No
Common constitution?No
Common banking system? No
Common education?No

Seems to me that the average british voter is distinctly ill-informed

]]> By: graham wood http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-124 graham wood Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:01:41 +0000 http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-124 How odd! "Mr Average British Voter", whose views are so intelligent that he declines to attach himself to a name, believes that those who disagree with his rose coloured view of the EU must be deemed "lunatics" Perhaps he can justify with a measure of sound reason and argument why British taxpayers should shell out £6.5 Billion p.a. for the doubtful benefit of inheriting a corrupt, undemocratic, and parasitic bureaucracy without their permission, leaving aside the countless other £Billions. Even better, perhaps one of his European friends could offer an answer to that? Please, bring 'em on ! How odd! “Mr Average British Voter”, whose views are so intelligent that he declines to attach himself to a name, believes that those who disagree with his rose coloured view of the EU must be deemed “lunatics”
Perhaps he can justify with a measure of sound reason and argument why British taxpayers should shell out £6.5 Billion p.a. for the doubtful benefit of inheriting a corrupt, undemocratic, and parasitic bureaucracy without their permission, leaving aside the countless other £Billions.
Even better, perhaps one of his European friends could offer an answer to that? Please, bring ‘em on !

]]> By: adams http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-121 adams Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:21:53 +0000 http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-121 Why is Bill Cash still in the party that has and is selling our country out to the EUSSR ? he and all likeminded conservatives are giving this rubbish party a legitimacy it does not deserve. When will the excrement hit the fan ? Never so it seems. Britain is disappearing without even a whimper. Cash is just one more time serving politician as are all the others. general election NOOOOOWWWWWWWW. Why is Bill Cash still in the party that has and is selling our country out to the EUSSR ? he and all likeminded conservatives are giving this rubbish party a legitimacy it does not deserve. When will the excrement hit the fan ?
Never so it seems. Britain is disappearing without even a whimper. Cash is just one more time serving politician as are all the others. general election NOOOOOWWWWWWWW.

]]> By: average englishman http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-115 average englishman Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:35:20 +0000 http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-115 While we may have more in common with Europe than America or Australia do we really need their laws and customs. The arguements regarding our sovereignty should be directed at maintaining a level of independence within the framework of European Unity and not total subjugation. Was that not the aim of the original planners and it this current crop of legislators who have corrupted this process While we may have more in common with Europe than America or Australia do we really need their laws and customs. The arguements regarding our sovereignty should be directed at maintaining a level of independence within the framework of European Unity and not total subjugation. Was that not the aim of the original planners and it this current crop of legislators who have corrupted this process

]]> By: The average British voter http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-109 The average British voter Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:01:49 +0000 http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-109 oops! Have I stumbled into the lunatics' asylum? A short message to any of our European friends who may accidentally find themselves reading this blog. These views are not representative of educated British people. Most of us have moved on from second world war propaganda and work daily with friends from across Europe. We know that we have far more in common with our German and Dutch neighbours than with Americans or Australians (although they are our friends too!). We look forward to working with you to build a strong EU that protects European values of democracy, freedom of speech, market capitalism and la dolce vita... oops! Have I stumbled into the lunatics’ asylum?

A short message to any of our European friends who may accidentally find themselves reading this blog. These views are not representative of educated British people. Most of us have moved on from second world war propaganda and work daily with friends from across Europe. We know that we have far more in common with our German and Dutch neighbours than with Americans or Australians (although they are our friends too!).

We look forward to working with you to build a strong EU that protects European values of democracy, freedom of speech, market capitalism and la dolce vita…

]]> By: davy mac http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-97 davy mac Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:18:07 +0000 http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-97 the second world war was fought to stop the third reich taken over europe and making europe one state. as far as i am concerned this labour government has in the past only going to be satisfied when the red army marched down whitehall now they appear only to be content when the germans take over europe. how long before brussells is no longer deemed to be the centre of europe and the eu headquarters move to berlin then hitlers dream will be realised blair brown straw and millieband should be arrested and charged with treason for selling out their country the second world war was fought to stop the third reich taken over europe and making europe one state. as far as i am concerned this labour government has in the past only going to be satisfied when the red army marched down whitehall now they appear only to be content when the germans take over europe. how long before brussells is no longer deemed to be the centre of europe and the eu headquarters move to berlin then hitlers dream will be realised blair brown straw and millieband should be arrested and charged with treason for selling out their country

]]> By: George Curtis http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-76 George Curtis Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:45:30 +0000 http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-76 Communism, red in tooth and claw, disappeared from sight with the fall of the Berlin Wall. Behind cover of the nonsense this generated the Frankfurt School of Marxism/Fabian Society doctrines took over with psychological warfare, aiming to continue the destruction of the nation state by undermining all that make them what they are, by perverting the teaching of history, literature, language, and any form of morality that might distinguish between right and wrong, by downgrading family values and motherhood family, in order to create a cultureless youth open to manipulation, through teaching, and the prevention of free speech by rendering any matter of doctrine/viewpoint that any ordinary person might wish to dispute socially unacceptable. We are now to be driven into Communism, red in tooth and claw, disappeared from sight with the fall of the Berlin Wall. Behind cover of the nonsense this generated the Frankfurt School of Marxism/Fabian Society doctrines took over with psychological warfare, aiming to continue the destruction of the nation state by undermining all that make them what they are, by perverting the teaching of history, literature, language, and any form of morality that might distinguish between right and wrong, by downgrading family values and motherhood family, in order to create a cultureless youth open to manipulation, through teaching, and the prevention of free speech by rendering any matter of doctrine/viewpoint that any ordinary person might wish to dispute socially unacceptable. We are now to be driven into

]]> By: Douglas http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-63 Douglas Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:41:35 +0000 http://www.greateudebate.com/2009/the-oxford-eu-debate/#comment-63 Why, in the name of God, should democraticlly elected politicians, serving a democratic nation that has been created from a thousand years of history; and against the peoples authority, throw it all away to a foreign land ruled by unelected, sleasy, corrupt dictators? For the last 20 years I have been asking anyone who will listen, what is in it for them? The Kinnocks are a good example to that question. The main problem is, the British people are the brave of the brave on the field of battle, but when it comes to conflict with authority, they bow their heads and walk away, for how long, who knows. They say we can't throw out the so called Treaty. Yes we can, it is just a piece of paper. They say it is legal; nothing is more legal than the will of the people. Like Italy with their outrage over the ban on the crucifix, our people will begin to see the reality of Brussels dictatorship. On problem against this is the amount of immigrants in this country, who to a man are in favour of the EU for their own special reasons On the subject of immigrants, have you noticed how many of our political leaders are sons and daughters of immigrants, who in turn are very pro EU. Regarding the Oxford EU Debate They are not going to vote against their paymasters are they. Why, in the name of God, should democraticlly elected politicians, serving a democratic nation that has been created from a thousand years of history; and against the peoples authority, throw it all away to a foreign land ruled by unelected, sleasy, corrupt dictators?

For the last 20 years I have been asking anyone who will listen, what is in it for them? The Kinnocks are a good example to that question.

The main problem is, the British people are the brave of the brave on the field of battle, but when it comes to conflict with authority, they bow their heads and walk away, for how long, who knows.

They say we can’t throw out the so called Treaty. Yes we can, it is just a piece of paper. They say it is legal; nothing is more legal than the will of the people.

Like Italy with their outrage over the ban on the crucifix, our people will begin to see the reality of Brussels dictatorship. On problem against this is the amount of immigrants in this country, who to a man are in favour of the EU for their own special reasons On the subject of immigrants, have you noticed how many of our political leaders are sons and daughters of immigrants, who in turn are very pro EU.

Regarding the Oxford EU Debate

They are not going to vote against their paymasters are they.

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