Whilst I agree with everything you say re: leaving the undemocratic EU, I think you should rejoin with the main Tory Party to spread the word from the inside. I want a free England devoid of anything but trading ties with Europe.
All I can say is Here ! Here !
The clarity of Daniel Hannan’s thought is so refreshing when compared to the at worst cynicism at best pointless tokenism of Cameron and Hague.
Well said Daniel, but can you further your cause within a Cameron/Hague tory party? You have to find a platform to get this interview out to the Great British Public, i know it’s not easy but the GBP seem to keep there head down and feel that it’s not there problem. Fog in the english channel ,europe cut off, still seems to stsnd !
Just joined this site and conversation. Have read the book which is excellent. No one would argue against the case put in it – the facts of our political, democratic and economic losses through membership of the EU are well beyond dispute. So well done in setting up the site and publishing this novel, and positive approach to our objective to move out.
I disagree with John Reeves comment above – i.e. “re-join with the main Tory Party.
As an ex lifelong Tory voter, I see no future for that party or the country under DC/Hague’s present policy. I have recently circulated each member of the Shadow Cabinet with a request that they “come clean”, and positively support our British Constitution as opposed to Lisbon.
With one exception, all have refused to respond. One exception is Teresa May. If her letter is representative of the current Tory position then the measure of ignorance and naivete is truly alarming. May I post it on to this blog for others to read and consider?. (I am not banging any party political drum and not a member of any party)
The sad thing is that in my life time I have always voted for the Least Bad – usually Conservative. But was Edward Heath really any better than Wilson or John Major than Kinnock? They were all DISASTERS. I will vote UKIP next election and see the Tory Noting Hill Mafia as self serving and dangerous as the Labour Islington Mafia. Time for Country before Party. The only way is OUT of the EU Soviet and UKIP is the only way to be certain. The more good folk from the Tories (and other parties) who join now, the more likely we are to avoid civil war later when voters discover what the EU Soviet really means.
Daniel Hannan is spot on…but he is in the wrong Party. He uses exactly the same arguments and even phrases as the UK Independence Party. He will never achieve his aims in the Conservative Party – I tried to for over 30 years.
Daniel should join UKIP – he would walk any leadership election.
I agree with what Daniel Hannan says about Europe . There are millions of people in the UK who do not want to be part of a European Union. We voted to join a Common Market, not a European Union (although I did not have the opportunity to vote at that time).
I do not understand why we pay to belong to an exclusive club called Europe only for them to hand us back our own money in grants for our so called “deprived areas”. We then we have to fly the EU Flag to say look what they have done for us.
It is a waste of money, a gravy train for unelected people and failed politicians – Neil Kinnock being a prime example.
It goes on, but there are not enough hours in the day!
Thank you for keeping debate alive – although there has been no proper debate so far without hysteria and the labelling of those who want out as being mad.
I completely agree with Daniel on the EU, what I’d like to see is a manifesto commitment to a in/out referendum on EU membership. I’m 40 and have never been asked whether I want to be part of a federal Europe. My parents generation voted for a trading relationship,however I do think at this stage we should trust David Cameron to prioritise the issues facing the UK when he is elected and resolve the EU question later during his first term in office. We need to focus on defeating Labour first and getting the countrys finances back in order, much as I’d like to see us depart the corrupt and undemocratic EU, the reality is UKIP are simply not ever going to get enough influence in Westminster, the only way is to vote conservative. Please don’t let Labour back in by splitting the conservative vote. Fight it once in power from within.
Sorry John, that tune has been played for years and gets nowhere because the Tories are largely (Daniel excepted) as bad as Labour. The electorate is ready to revolt against the political professionals. Voting UKIP will wake them up. Now is the time.
Dave Weeks
16. Nov, 2009
Daniel Hannan will never achieve his beliefs whilst he stay in a Tory Party which is ruled in the background by Clarke, Heseltine and a few of the old regime. The only party for Daniel and like minded people is UKIP. Come on Daniel, stand up for what you believe in and cross the floor now before it is too late.
Keep Daniel Hannan in the Conservative Party, he is an asset to other true patriotic Conservatives fighting for a referendum on Europe (and there are many at grass root level).
In fact the best idea would be for him to replace the two timing David Cameron as leader.
Daniel, please maintain the pressure to have a referendum promise placed in the Tory election manifesto
All those people in ever member country who want to see the end of the eu and its petty dictators should unite together to scrap the eu. If signatures to leave the eu were collected on a country-wide and also on an eu-wide basis I am sure that we will succeed in scrapping the eu dictatorship in Brussels and every country will get back its independence, freedom and sovereignty to decide in its own and its citizens best interests and not be dictated to by the unelected brusselscrats.
I agree wholeheartly with David but can he every get us a vote on the e.u. Brown AND cameron are not to be trusted by the BRITISH PEOPLE.
NOT ONE POLICTICANS HAS ASKED US IF THE UK SHOULD STAY IN OR GET OUT OF THE E.U.
Is it that they are AFRAID of what we might tell them,
The TRUTH which they UNDERSTAND and that is we want OUT
I have just looked at the website, and listened to Daniel Hannan’s video, saying the things I want to hear from our three main parties.
However I don’t believe I will ever hear this from those three, and as a floating voter I am left with two options UKIP and the BNP.
Given the unfettered spread of Islam in Britain today, and it’s possible consequences for our future, especially women’s future. I will have to vote for the party, which will not be afraid to tackle this problem within our borders, whoever decides to grasp the nettle, because party politics of any sort will be irrelevant if we end up under Sharia Law.
As a footnote, I get on well with the ordinary muslims I know, but if the imams and leaders decide to whip up hatred, we can expect mob rule and barbaric violence, just as was meted out in Christian Lebanon.
In France yesterday Muslims were attacking synagogues and Jews. If we allow that to go unchallenged, inevitably we will end up in the same situation as it spreads, just as in Hitler’s time.
True Nazi influence wanting Global Domination, is once more on the move, having used covert means to gain power and influence, with seemingly reasonable proposals, having used America to lay low and regroup.
Time to take off the blinkers.
Daniel Hannan is right about the EU dangers. I have seen enough Eurodamage to convince me that we need to get out. David Cameron has lost my vote due to his turnabout and now I dispair of any main party tackling the issue that is so important to our future. Since the main party`s refuse to give us a voice why dont we have an independant Internet referendum. We have the technology so why not bypass the selfserving idiots in Parliament. A debate is good but we need to have that referendum and Daniel Hannen is the man to lead it.
What a fantastic interview. Daniel is one of the few who will speak up for what is right for the country and its people. As many people have said above, I will be voting for UKIP next election, the three main parties just leave me feeling frustrated and angry, they are all as bad as each other, they all speak the same language, never a straight answer to a straight question, and always boasting about ‘what we’ve done’. Totally disillusioned, and we need to get our country back!
This guy gets my total respect. He talks sense and does so in a concise and interesting way. He is wasted with the Tories.
If Daniel were to unite the anti-EU parties and anti-EU factions within the Conservative party, the next general election would be in the bag. The socialists and NuLabour are a waste of time. Good little commie clones intent on wrecking this country to please their masters in the EUSSR!
I am voting BNP. The only party that truly represents small businesses and the working man/ woman.
It’s time either, to bid for leadership of the Conservative Party or jump ship and join us in UKIP, where your presence would give a much needed boost of confidence to timorous Tories who haven’t yet found the courage to abandon the hope that the Tory Party will actually DO something to get us out of the EU.
Many Tories are at last seeing that, far from being a Eurosceptic party, the Conservative Party actually got us into this mess in the first place. Others still think it makes some difference which of the Lib/Lab/ Con co-conspiritors are elected to Westminster.
People need to realise that we are in a situation similar to that we found ourselves in in 1940 all over again and failure to this time will have the same consequences as it would have then.
I am beginning to despair of the Conservatives as David Cameron does not seem to get it,that a huge number of Conservative voters are about to deflect to other parties in the coming election,myself included.Why will he not commit to a referendum asking if the British people wish to stay in the EU?
Only two boxes need to be on the voting paper: Yes or No
Come on Mr Hannan,use your considerable influence to make him see sense before it is too late.If this country has another term with Gordon Brown then I will emigrate,even though I am now in my late 60s!! I and my wife have had enough.
Come on Daniel you cannot have it both ways?If you cannot persuade David Cameron and the Conservatives to get out of the corrupt EU,you should resign from the Party! UKIP need a strong international figure like you to acheive an IN or OUT vote,then job done! We need someone like you who understands the dreadfull position Great Britain is in.Please at least think about it.
I found Daniel Hannan´s views most refreshing as they fit in with my own of the need for the individual to take back power from the State, whatever its form. I am, however, sorryb to see how much of the comment has resorted to petty part politics, the practice of which is how we got into this mess in the first place. When I telephone the two main UK parties for an up to date figure on their membership, neither would do so but I understand Labour claims to have over 1 million and the Conservatives have less than that. If you think democracy is well served by allowing only 1 million or so people out of 60 million to set the agenda then you are obviously in favour of the original Greek salve state definition and cannot be serious about true reform and the return of power to the individual. More power to the likes of danial Hanna anyway and keep up the good work
It is time for us to come out of European union which is beginning to look more and more like the soviet union by the day. I will definately be voting UKIP this time!
I have only ever voted Conservative,even though I live in a Labour constituency where the MP has a majority of 18,000 plus!
But I cannot now bring myself to vote for David Cameron,even if there was a chance of returning a conservative MP here.My vote will now go to Ukip,and I think that Mr Cameron had better watch out as we could well have a hung parliament with all the dangers that will ensue.However,eventually it will not matter as Brussels will be our government.But if we have to endure Brown as a federal head,then I have to agree with my husbands` earlier comment,we will leave the country for Canada or Australia.These countries seem well able manage on their own.
Mr Hannen,can you not warn Mr Cameron of his folly in not allowing supporters a referendum on whether we stay in Europe or leave.It would be quite a simple ballot paper: Yes or No.
So come on see sense before it is too late!
Dan Hannan is spot on, as usual. He is also right to stay in the Tory party. It will take a Government to get us out of the EU, which in practice means a Labour or a Tory Government. UKIP have a massive mountain to climb before they could think of forning a government. Labour certainly won’t do it. So the only real prospect is a Tory Government, God help us. They have a dismal track record on the EU, talking tough and doing nothing (except for Thatcher). But Heseltine and Major have gone, Ian Taylor and David Curry are going, only Clarke remains. He is a formidable presence, but he now represents a small minority of pro-Europeans, and he can’t last for ever. I hate to rely on Cameron, but he is all we’ve got. Once his EU policy has failed, he can either accept failure and try to talk his way out of it, or act. Not much chance of the latter, I know, but what else can we do?
What I’d like to see from this great debate is some guidance on what we the public ought to be doing about it, to keep up the pressure on Cameron and others.
Come on, Dan, give us a lead!
Daniel is completely right with what he is arguing, as i am currently studying politics it seems that the best way forward for the UK is out of the EU. We as british citizens should have a say in what we want for a future and as it stands that the moment the EU is only a hinderance to the way forward. I’m am so glad that some politicians haven’t given up the argument for getting out of the undemocratic EU. the only decent thing we have out of it is trade, so Government rather than increasing taxes and reducing government spending do the right thing by your public and listen to them for once.
Advice please Daniel.
Without an opportunity to vote to get out of the EU, I shall now leave the Conservative party.
The constituacy in which I live is a very safe Conservative seat. so we are unlikely to see a UKIP candidate stand for that reason.
My favourite solution would be for an offshoot party – namely the Conservative Referendom party.
Rebuilding the self-respect and pride we had in this once great country can only come about by clawing it back and reconstructing it in a million ways.
Where do I and those like me place our vote?
PS. “Ten Years On” should be compulsory reading for all.
John Reeves
13. Nov, 2009
Whilst I agree with everything you say re: leaving the undemocratic EU, I think you should rejoin with the main Tory Party to spread the word from the inside. I want a free England devoid of anything but trading ties with Europe.
Alastair MacMillan
13. Nov, 2009
All I can say is Here ! Here !
The clarity of Daniel Hannan’s thought is so refreshing when compared to the at worst cynicism at best pointless tokenism of Cameron and Hague.
Simon Anselmi
13. Nov, 2009
Well said Daniel, but can you further your cause within a Cameron/Hague tory party? You have to find a platform to get this interview out to the Great British Public, i know it’s not easy but the GBP seem to keep there head down and feel that it’s not there problem. Fog in the english channel ,europe cut off, still seems to stsnd !
graham wood
14. Nov, 2009
Just joined this site and conversation. Have read the book which is excellent. No one would argue against the case put in it – the facts of our political, democratic and economic losses through membership of the EU are well beyond dispute. So well done in setting up the site and publishing this novel, and positive approach to our objective to move out.
I disagree with John Reeves comment above – i.e. “re-join with the main Tory Party.
As an ex lifelong Tory voter, I see no future for that party or the country under DC/Hague’s present policy. I have recently circulated each member of the Shadow Cabinet with a request that they “come clean”, and positively support our British Constitution as opposed to Lisbon.
With one exception, all have refused to respond. One exception is Teresa May. If her letter is representative of the current Tory position then the measure of ignorance and naivete is truly alarming. May I post it on to this blog for others to read and consider?. (I am not banging any party political drum and not a member of any party)
Barry Harding
15. Nov, 2009
The sad thing is that in my life time I have always voted for the Least Bad – usually Conservative. But was Edward Heath really any better than Wilson or John Major than Kinnock? They were all DISASTERS. I will vote UKIP next election and see the Tory Noting Hill Mafia as self serving and dangerous as the Labour Islington Mafia. Time for Country before Party. The only way is OUT of the EU Soviet and UKIP is the only way to be certain. The more good folk from the Tories (and other parties) who join now, the more likely we are to avoid civil war later when voters discover what the EU Soviet really means.
Mike Smith
15. Nov, 2009
Daniel Hannan is spot on…but he is in the wrong Party. He uses exactly the same arguments and even phrases as the UK Independence Party. He will never achieve his aims in the Conservative Party – I tried to for over 30 years.
Daniel should join UKIP – he would walk any leadership election.
Sandra Oxley
15. Nov, 2009
I agree with what Daniel Hannan says about Europe . There are millions of people in the UK who do not want to be part of a European Union. We voted to join a Common Market, not a European Union (although I did not have the opportunity to vote at that time).
I do not understand why we pay to belong to an exclusive club called Europe only for them to hand us back our own money in grants for our so called “deprived areas”. We then we have to fly the EU Flag to say look what they have done for us.
It is a waste of money, a gravy train for unelected people and failed politicians – Neil Kinnock being a prime example.
It goes on, but there are not enough hours in the day!
Thank you for keeping debate alive – although there has been no proper debate so far without hysteria and the labelling of those who want out as being mad.
john fisher
15. Nov, 2009
I completely agree with Daniel on the EU, what I’d like to see is a manifesto commitment to a in/out referendum on EU membership. I’m 40 and have never been asked whether I want to be part of a federal Europe. My parents generation voted for a trading relationship,however I do think at this stage we should trust David Cameron to prioritise the issues facing the UK when he is elected and resolve the EU question later during his first term in office. We need to focus on defeating Labour first and getting the countrys finances back in order, much as I’d like to see us depart the corrupt and undemocratic EU, the reality is UKIP are simply not ever going to get enough influence in Westminster, the only way is to vote conservative. Please don’t let Labour back in by splitting the conservative vote. Fight it once in power from within.
Barry Harding
15. Nov, 2009
Sorry John, that tune has been played for years and gets nowhere because the Tories are largely (Daniel excepted) as bad as Labour. The electorate is ready to revolt against the political professionals. Voting UKIP will wake them up. Now is the time.
Dave Weeks
16. Nov, 2009
Daniel Hannan will never achieve his beliefs whilst he stay in a Tory Party which is ruled in the background by Clarke, Heseltine and a few of the old regime. The only party for Daniel and like minded people is UKIP. Come on Daniel, stand up for what you believe in and cross the floor now before it is too late.
John Payne
16. Nov, 2009
Keep Daniel Hannan in the Conservative Party, he is an asset to other true patriotic Conservatives fighting for a referendum on Europe (and there are many at grass root level).
In fact the best idea would be for him to replace the two timing David Cameron as leader.
Daniel, please maintain the pressure to have a referendum promise placed in the Tory election manifesto
Lawrence
16. Nov, 2009
All those people in ever member country who want to see the end of the eu and its petty dictators should unite together to scrap the eu. If signatures to leave the eu were collected on a country-wide and also on an eu-wide basis I am sure that we will succeed in scrapping the eu dictatorship in Brussels and every country will get back its independence, freedom and sovereignty to decide in its own and its citizens best interests and not be dictated to by the unelected brusselscrats.
Derek
16. Nov, 2009
I agree wholeheartly with David but can he every get us a vote on the e.u. Brown AND cameron are not to be trusted by the BRITISH PEOPLE.
NOT ONE POLICTICANS HAS ASKED US IF THE UK SHOULD STAY IN OR GET OUT OF THE E.U.
Is it that they are AFRAID of what we might tell them,
The TRUTH which they UNDERSTAND and that is we want OUT
Jane Birkby
17. Nov, 2009
I have just looked at the website, and listened to Daniel Hannan’s video, saying the things I want to hear from our three main parties.
However I don’t believe I will ever hear this from those three, and as a floating voter I am left with two options UKIP and the BNP.
Given the unfettered spread of Islam in Britain today, and it’s possible consequences for our future, especially women’s future. I will have to vote for the party, which will not be afraid to tackle this problem within our borders, whoever decides to grasp the nettle, because party politics of any sort will be irrelevant if we end up under Sharia Law.
As a footnote, I get on well with the ordinary muslims I know, but if the imams and leaders decide to whip up hatred, we can expect mob rule and barbaric violence, just as was meted out in Christian Lebanon.
In France yesterday Muslims were attacking synagogues and Jews. If we allow that to go unchallenged, inevitably we will end up in the same situation as it spreads, just as in Hitler’s time.
True Nazi influence wanting Global Domination, is once more on the move, having used covert means to gain power and influence, with seemingly reasonable proposals, having used America to lay low and regroup.
Time to take off the blinkers.
M Absalon
17. Nov, 2009
Daniel Hannan is right about the EU dangers. I have seen enough Eurodamage to convince me that we need to get out. David Cameron has lost my vote due to his turnabout and now I dispair of any main party tackling the issue that is so important to our future. Since the main party`s refuse to give us a voice why dont we have an independant Internet referendum. We have the technology so why not bypass the selfserving idiots in Parliament. A debate is good but we need to have that referendum and Daniel Hannen is the man to lead it.
G.Matten
18. Nov, 2009
What a fantastic interview. Daniel is one of the few who will speak up for what is right for the country and its people. As many people have said above, I will be voting for UKIP next election, the three main parties just leave me feeling frustrated and angry, they are all as bad as each other, they all speak the same language, never a straight answer to a straight question, and always boasting about ‘what we’ve done’. Totally disillusioned, and we need to get our country back!
Rob
18. Nov, 2009
This guy gets my total respect. He talks sense and does so in a concise and interesting way. He is wasted with the Tories.
If Daniel were to unite the anti-EU parties and anti-EU factions within the Conservative party, the next general election would be in the bag. The socialists and NuLabour are a waste of time. Good little commie clones intent on wrecking this country to please their masters in the EUSSR!
I am voting BNP. The only party that truly represents small businesses and the working man/ woman.
Bob Dell
19. Nov, 2009
Dan,
It’s time either, to bid for leadership of the Conservative Party or jump ship and join us in UKIP, where your presence would give a much needed boost of confidence to timorous Tories who haven’t yet found the courage to abandon the hope that the Tory Party will actually DO something to get us out of the EU.
Many Tories are at last seeing that, far from being a Eurosceptic party, the Conservative Party actually got us into this mess in the first place. Others still think it makes some difference which of the Lib/Lab/ Con co-conspiritors are elected to Westminster.
People need to realise that we are in a situation similar to that we found ourselves in in 1940 all over again and failure to this time will have the same consequences as it would have then.
I. Guthrie
19. Nov, 2009
Daniel Hannan would make an excellent Prime Minister. He is in the wrong party and I would like to see him in UKIP.
Michael Hurley
21. Nov, 2009
I am beginning to despair of the Conservatives as David Cameron does not seem to get it,that a huge number of Conservative voters are about to deflect to other parties in the coming election,myself included.Why will he not commit to a referendum asking if the British people wish to stay in the EU?
Only two boxes need to be on the voting paper: Yes or No
Come on Mr Hannan,use your considerable influence to make him see sense before it is too late.If this country has another term with Gordon Brown then I will emigrate,even though I am now in my late 60s!! I and my wife have had enough.
Brian Shirley
21. Nov, 2009
Come on Daniel you cannot have it both ways?If you cannot persuade David Cameron and the Conservatives to get out of the corrupt EU,you should resign from the Party! UKIP need a strong international figure like you to acheive an IN or OUT vote,then job done! We need someone like you who understands the dreadfull position Great Britain is in.Please at least think about it.
Alaric
21. Nov, 2009
I found Daniel Hannan´s views most refreshing as they fit in with my own of the need for the individual to take back power from the State, whatever its form. I am, however, sorryb to see how much of the comment has resorted to petty part politics, the practice of which is how we got into this mess in the first place. When I telephone the two main UK parties for an up to date figure on their membership, neither would do so but I understand Labour claims to have over 1 million and the Conservatives have less than that. If you think democracy is well served by allowing only 1 million or so people out of 60 million to set the agenda then you are obviously in favour of the original Greek salve state definition and cannot be serious about true reform and the return of power to the individual. More power to the likes of danial Hanna anyway and keep up the good work
Tony Marlow
22. Nov, 2009
It is time for us to come out of European union which is beginning to look more and more like the soviet union by the day. I will definately be voting UKIP this time!
Kathleen Hurley
24. Nov, 2009
I have only ever voted Conservative,even though I live in a Labour constituency where the MP has a majority of 18,000 plus!
But I cannot now bring myself to vote for David Cameron,even if there was a chance of returning a conservative MP here.My vote will now go to Ukip,and I think that Mr Cameron had better watch out as we could well have a hung parliament with all the dangers that will ensue.However,eventually it will not matter as Brussels will be our government.But if we have to endure Brown as a federal head,then I have to agree with my husbands` earlier comment,we will leave the country for Canada or Australia.These countries seem well able manage on their own.
Mr Hannen,can you not warn Mr Cameron of his folly in not allowing supporters a referendum on whether we stay in Europe or leave.It would be quite a simple ballot paper: Yes or No.
So come on see sense before it is too late!
Ken Worthy
24. Nov, 2009
Dan Hannan is spot on, as usual. He is also right to stay in the Tory party. It will take a Government to get us out of the EU, which in practice means a Labour or a Tory Government. UKIP have a massive mountain to climb before they could think of forning a government. Labour certainly won’t do it. So the only real prospect is a Tory Government, God help us. They have a dismal track record on the EU, talking tough and doing nothing (except for Thatcher). But Heseltine and Major have gone, Ian Taylor and David Curry are going, only Clarke remains. He is a formidable presence, but he now represents a small minority of pro-Europeans, and he can’t last for ever. I hate to rely on Cameron, but he is all we’ve got. Once his EU policy has failed, he can either accept failure and try to talk his way out of it, or act. Not much chance of the latter, I know, but what else can we do?
What I’d like to see from this great debate is some guidance on what we the public ought to be doing about it, to keep up the pressure on Cameron and others.
Come on, Dan, give us a lead!
Kathryn Loveland
26. Nov, 2009
Daniel is completely right with what he is arguing, as i am currently studying politics it seems that the best way forward for the UK is out of the EU. We as british citizens should have a say in what we want for a future and as it stands that the moment the EU is only a hinderance to the way forward. I’m am so glad that some politicians haven’t given up the argument for getting out of the undemocratic EU. the only decent thing we have out of it is trade, so Government rather than increasing taxes and reducing government spending do the right thing by your public and listen to them for once.
E. Beecham.
02. Dec, 2009
Advice please Daniel.
Without an opportunity to vote to get out of the EU, I shall now leave the Conservative party.
The constituacy in which I live is a very safe Conservative seat. so we are unlikely to see a UKIP candidate stand for that reason.
My favourite solution would be for an offshoot party – namely the Conservative Referendom party.
Rebuilding the self-respect and pride we had in this once great country can only come about by clawing it back and reconstructing it in a million ways.
Where do I and those like me place our vote?
PS. “Ten Years On” should be compulsory reading for all.
Robin Knowles
14. Dec, 2009
A very interesting and thought provoking video. A future for our country outside europe is to be desired.